tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post8817849853663574986..comments2023-10-21T05:22:29.815-04:00Comments on Ray Veen: word-slinger: family and writing and whatnot - in that order.Ray Veenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11956279552298172157noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-9933948161344269242008-10-09T08:44:00.000-04:002008-10-09T08:44:00.000-04:00BPV, your daughter is so lovely! And very chic. ...BPV, your daughter is so lovely! And very chic. I love the dress!<BR/><BR/>My word count is always ridiculous. I think my first book was 120 and cutting it down to 100 was like plucking every single arm hair using the teeth of an angry badger. It totally sucked. I had to scrap an entire subplot. Made me very sad :>(Vikki https://www.blogger.com/profile/15654315874147137046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-45039140657682788712008-10-08T02:05:00.000-04:002008-10-08T02:05:00.000-04:00Okay, you asked for it. I would leave out ONE "res...Okay, you asked for it. I would leave out ONE "rescue" chapter. If you HAVE to cut something, only IF. Because they keep trying to rescue someone who tells them not to. They are great chapters with clever devices, it would be a horrible sacrifice...but I would hate to see you get rid of any of those cool characters. You might also think about the first chapter, set up the story in one or two pages instead of including so much info about a situation Noah is leaving and people we will not hear from again....? Okay, I will go to my room now. Really, I know little or nothing about what to do about your word count except I was going to say what Bunnyjo said and I wanted an opinion of my own.VeeFlowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08181530007440123152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-40836159037232391732008-10-07T23:37:00.000-04:002008-10-07T23:37:00.000-04:00Mine tend to be to short rather than too long.But ...Mine tend to be to short rather than too long.<BR/>But good luck, I doubt you'll need it though as your query letter's sound great (previous post).<BR/><BR/>Your daughter is a Q-T!Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18223593384412438527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-40532651422278330672008-10-07T11:04:00.000-04:002008-10-07T11:04:00.000-04:00What is your genre? For commercial fic I usually ...What is your genre? For commercial fic I usually come in right around the 80k mark...colbymarshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056535503422186623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-90652547978241037392008-10-07T09:05:00.000-04:002008-10-07T09:05:00.000-04:00Pink - Thank you for your discernment and good tas...Pink - Thank you for your discernment and good taste.<BR/><BR/>Carrie - Thanks again for the good luck.<BR/><BR/>Bunny - I'm sure I could find a few more words here and there, but you know, I have been through it multiple times. I HAVE cut words from pretty much every sentence in the book. If I were to find more, I doubt there would be enough to significantly impact my overall word count.<BR/><BR/>You've gotta read this thing for me. Shorty should be done with her copy soon.<BR/><BR/>------------<BR/><BR/>I'm not completely worried about the length (plenty of YA books are indeed that long), but it would be an easier sell if it were shorter.<BR/><BR/>I'm half expecting this agent - if he did offer representation - to make it contingent on lowering the word count. So at this point I'm contemplating cutting fairly major characters and converting some lively, present 'showing' scenes to 'telling' scenes. In other words - narrative summary. <BR/><BR/>*<I>shudder</I>*Ray Veenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11956279552298172157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-55774866347788776992008-10-07T08:47:00.000-04:002008-10-07T08:47:00.000-04:00('scuse me if I'm redundant here....didn't read co...('scuse me if I'm redundant here....didn't read comments above....again)<BR/><BR/>How long is a Harry Potter book? How many words, I mean? I think that big fat books in your genre are more the rule than the exception. And the thing is, kids aren't afraid of those big thick books either. Grace hauled them back and forth from school all last year and read till her eyes almost fell out.<BR/><BR/>My other thought is: there's a lot of fat that can be cut. While you say there are no needless words or phrases, all authors feel that way. Oftentimes, rewriting a sentence with different phrasing will net a savings of three to five words PER SENTENCE. Sometimes it is only one word, other times it is seven or eight, but I would say the average is 3 to 5.<BR/><BR/>I'm really busy so I have to go now. I'm interested though in editing, but you'd have to patient.....family obligations and such.bunnyjo georghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04985855536930097791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-76197966646015930842008-10-07T07:44:00.000-04:002008-10-07T07:44:00.000-04:00Yay for the full request!Yay for the full request!Carrie Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14893023777471521703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-58914201754242582472008-10-07T02:23:00.000-04:002008-10-07T02:23:00.000-04:00Your daughter is beautiful!Well, if you are gettin...Your daughter is beautiful!<BR/><BR/>Well, if you are getting requests for full on your word count, I wouldn't worry about it. Congratulations and Good luck!Jewel Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09614039445924074306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-1112311968807369482008-10-07T01:22:00.000-04:002008-10-07T01:22:00.000-04:00Jamie, CJ, and Veeflower - Thank you for your disc...Jamie, CJ, and Veeflower - Thank you for your discernment and good taste. I wasn't sure at first, but you've all managed to convince me: Hailie is a beautiful girl.<BR/><BR/>And Veeflower - I had a half dozen folks list typos for me. You were supposed to identify the exact twenty-five thousand words that need to be removed. Any progress on that?Ray Veenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11956279552298172157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-60539499380727317022008-10-07T00:28:00.000-04:002008-10-07T00:28:00.000-04:00What a beautiful girl, and so together. I am proud...What a beautiful girl, and so together. I am prouder than I can even express. Our first teenager in this generation, and she is blowing us away! When I see her cheerleading I just can't beleive that is our little peanut. <BR/><BR/>Having a good guy at her side will really help her in every way, especially since she had to kiss a few toads first, and can appreciate getting a good guy! <BR/><BR/>But whoa, BPV, I have some typos from my reading of FB, you didn't wait for me!? Congrats on the request for the full manuscript, just hope you caught those little tiny typos yourself when you did the line edit.VeeFlowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08181530007440123152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-52790110627748292342008-10-06T23:34:00.000-04:002008-10-06T23:34:00.000-04:00Beautiful daughter. So glad she had such a good t...Beautiful daughter. So glad she had such a good time!CJ, The Purple Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15948798503439411747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-46909195794396635322008-10-06T21:40:00.000-04:002008-10-06T21:40:00.000-04:00Your daughter was amazing Saturday. She looked so ...Your daughter was amazing Saturday. She looked so pretty, this picture does her no justice. She was very sweet and loving and Don seemed almost in awe that his girl was so amazing, he very shyly gave her a pretty coursage. I can't lie, I got tears in my eyes. I was proud of her being so pretty and grown up, and also sad because she's so pretty and grown up..bitter sweet.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of sweet..wtg on the full manny! I'll keep my legs crossed too (wait..that didn't sound very good)shortensweethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00448869785919136047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-1436586923786717802008-10-06T11:29:00.000-04:002008-10-06T11:29:00.000-04:00Way to go with the toe-crossing, Carrie, I just go...Way to go with the toe-crossing, Carrie, I just got a request for a full - on only my fifth query.<BR/><BR/>So yeah, keep 'em crossed.Ray Veenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11956279552298172157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8507032778164380887.post-82304678701641170012008-10-06T08:17:00.000-04:002008-10-06T08:17:00.000-04:00I'm writing YA, so I'm all about the short and swe...I'm writing YA, so I'm all about the short and sweet thing. My last manny was about 65,000. <BR/><BR/>But who cares about that? CONGRATS on the Big Query Leap. Got fingers and toes crossed for you.Carrie Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14893023777471521703noreply@blogger.com